Comments on: Internet Security for the Average Consumer http://www.bostongeek.com/2007/06/13/internet-security-for-the-average-consumer/ We celebrate all facets of geekiness, including Tech Geek, Science Geek and Gaming Geek... coming to you straight from Boston. Sun, 23 Nov 2008 16:11:21 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: Carl http://www.bostongeek.com/2007/06/13/internet-security-for-the-average-consumer/#comment-65485 Carl Fri, 15 Jun 2007 13:51:14 +0000 http://www.bostongeek.com/2007/06/13/internet-security-for-the-average-consumer/#comment-65485 I almost posted it there, but then I realized it was almost a geek PSA. I almost posted it there, but then I realized it was almost a geek PSA.

]]> By: BigRemy http://www.bostongeek.com/2007/06/13/internet-security-for-the-average-consumer/#comment-65398 BigRemy Fri, 15 Jun 2007 00:32:02 +0000 http://www.bostongeek.com/2007/06/13/internet-security-for-the-average-consumer/#comment-65398 I just thought of something. Don't you know have you own space for stuff like this? Your www.carlreyes.com? Don't the tags "carl, rant" pretty much tag it for going there? I just thought of something. Don’t you know have you own space for stuff like this? Your http://www.carlreyes.com? Don’t the tags “carl, rant” pretty much tag it for going there?

]]> By: Carl http://www.bostongeek.com/2007/06/13/internet-security-for-the-average-consumer/#comment-65165 Carl Wed, 13 Jun 2007 17:29:04 +0000 http://www.bostongeek.com/2007/06/13/internet-security-for-the-average-consumer/#comment-65165 Heh. IT Managers do not often get to pick what applications run on a system. The system in place is what I inhereted, and switching it out is not 'up to the IT manager'. It's up to the owners and various VPs. Heh. IT Managers do not often get to pick what applications run on a system. The system in place is what I inhereted, and switching it out is not ‘up to the IT manager’. It’s up to the owners and various VPs.

]]> By: Colin http://www.bostongeek.com/2007/06/13/internet-security-for-the-average-consumer/#comment-65143 Colin Wed, 13 Jun 2007 16:10:43 +0000 http://www.bostongeek.com/2007/06/13/internet-security-for-the-average-consumer/#comment-65143 <blockquote>I used the analogy before the similar one showed up on the Dave Chapelle show, thanks. But all he did was show porn and pop-ups. So I stand by the originality of mine. </blockquote> Ya, and I invented the Internet even before Al Gore did. Of course, I have no proof. :) As for what applications are used on the network and their security requirements... well, that is sorta the responsibility of the IT Manager, isn't it? I mean, don't blame end users for the software they use. Don't blame them for being given Admin access to their local computers. Blame the IT Manager. And, then get him/her to fix it.

I used the analogy before the similar one showed up on the Dave Chapelle show, thanks. But all he did was show porn and pop-ups. So I stand by the originality of mine.

Ya, and I invented the Internet even before Al Gore did. Of course, I have no proof. :)

As for what applications are used on the network and their security requirements… well, that is sorta the responsibility of the IT Manager, isn’t it? I mean, don’t blame end users for the software they use. Don’t blame them for being given Admin access to their local computers. Blame the IT Manager. And, then get him/her to fix it.

]]> By: Carl http://www.bostongeek.com/2007/06/13/internet-security-for-the-average-consumer/#comment-65141 Carl Wed, 13 Jun 2007 15:42:27 +0000 http://www.bostongeek.com/2007/06/13/internet-security-for-the-average-consumer/#comment-65141 I used the analogy before the similar one showed up on the Dave Chapelle show, thanks. But all he did was show porn and pop-ups. So I stand by the originality of mine. As to me creating policies, well, there are a couple fo things I would have to say to that. I think of myself as a mechanic. I keep everything in tip-top shape. I can't possibly prevent everyone, however, from taking their Miatas off-roading, or driving over spiked chains. The other thing is, the in order to prevent people from doing the equivalent of those things, I would have to implment domain policies so severe that they wouldn't be able to do anything. Our main accounting/inventory/job costing suite requires admin privileges on all local machines. The best I can do is control the firewall, which is a bit like fencing them off from some of the problems. As to where they would carry their credit card numbers... tattooed on their anally raped asses. I used the analogy before the similar one showed up on the Dave Chapelle show, thanks. But all he did was show porn and pop-ups. So I stand by the originality of mine.

As to me creating policies, well, there are a couple fo things I would have to say to that. I think of myself as a mechanic. I keep everything in tip-top shape. I can’t possibly prevent everyone, however, from taking their Miatas off-roading, or driving over spiked chains.

The other thing is, the in order to prevent people from doing the equivalent of those things, I would have to implment domain policies so severe that they wouldn’t be able to do anything. Our main accounting/inventory/job costing suite requires admin privileges on all local machines. The best I can do is control the firewall, which is a bit like fencing them off from some of the problems.

As to where they would carry their credit card numbers… tattooed on their anally raped asses.

]]> By: Dave http://www.bostongeek.com/2007/06/13/internet-security-for-the-average-consumer/#comment-65140 Dave Wed, 13 Jun 2007 15:26:34 +0000 http://www.bostongeek.com/2007/06/13/internet-security-for-the-average-consumer/#comment-65140 I think Carl was just fishing for an excuse to say "anally raped" again. I think Carl was just fishing for an excuse to say “anally raped” again.

]]> By: Russtopher http://www.bostongeek.com/2007/06/13/internet-security-for-the-average-consumer/#comment-65138 Russtopher Wed, 13 Jun 2007 15:14:49 +0000 http://www.bostongeek.com/2007/06/13/internet-security-for-the-average-consumer/#comment-65138 If you're naked, how does he get your credit card number? Are you holding your wallet? If you're a woman, do you have your purse? If so, are you *really* naked? 'Cause I've heard some women say they feel naked *without* their purse, so wouldn't they technically not be naked *with* it? Or did he get it from one of those "credit card on your keychain" thingies they have now? Why were you carrying your keys if you're naked? I mean, I suppose if you were running and fell down, they wouldn't dig into your leg as they would if they were in your pocket, but I mean, if I was naked and had my keys, then damn man I'd be in my car hiding and not walking to a porn store in NYC. If you’re naked, how does he get your credit card number? Are you holding your wallet? If you’re a woman, do you have your purse? If so, are you *really* naked? ‘Cause I’ve heard some women say they feel naked *without* their purse, so wouldn’t they technically not be naked *with* it? Or did he get it from one of those “credit card on your keychain” thingies they have now? Why were you carrying your keys if you’re naked? I mean, I suppose if you were running and fell down, they wouldn’t dig into your leg as they would if they were in your pocket, but I mean, if I was naked and had my keys, then damn man I’d be in my car hiding and not walking to a porn store in NYC.

]]> By: Colin http://www.bostongeek.com/2007/06/13/internet-security-for-the-average-consumer/#comment-65137 Colin Wed, 13 Jun 2007 14:43:54 +0000 http://www.bostongeek.com/2007/06/13/internet-security-for-the-average-consumer/#comment-65137 Well, lets take a step back... You mention oil changes. Well, most people do not, in fact, handle most auto maintenance themselves. They have an expert who handles it for them. Someone who looks at the car, diagnoses problems, advises how to keep the car running smoothly, etc. Isn't the role of IT person to take care of these problems for end-users? They don't know a serpentine belt from an antispyware application. As an IT manager, shouldn't you be responsible for creating and enforcing policies that keep the network and its components safe so that the end-user can focus on doing their job and not on worrying whether or not they have adequate malware protection? I am not so sure your analogy will actually help. It was funny on Dave Chapelle, but not really useful for an end-user. Well, lets take a step back… You mention oil changes. Well, most people do not, in fact, handle most auto maintenance themselves. They have an expert who handles it for them. Someone who looks at the car, diagnoses problems, advises how to keep the car running smoothly, etc.

Isn’t the role of IT person to take care of these problems for end-users? They don’t know a serpentine belt from an antispyware application. As an IT manager, shouldn’t you be responsible for creating and enforcing policies that keep the network and its components safe so that the end-user can focus on doing their job and not on worrying whether or not they have adequate malware protection?

I am not so sure your analogy will actually help. It was funny on Dave Chapelle, but not really useful for an end-user.

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